WNYRCNA Committee Meeting for May 17, 2008

Opened: at 12:25 pm with MOS/SP Basic Text read by Mike B./Concepts read by Susan ./Traditions read by Derrick.
1. Roll call Present: Chair-P, V Chair-P,-Treasurer-P, Secretary- open, Buffalo RCM -P, Chautauqua RCM-P, Niagara Falls RCM Alt-P, Ni-O Representative-P , Convention Chair-P, Website-P; RD-P, RD Alt-P, H&I-P, Activities-open, P.I. -open, by law review-P , Literature -P Vacant: P.I. Activities., Quorum Established.
2. Treasurer's Opening Balance - $2,625.23
3. Next Meeting: Niagara Falls July 19, 2008. 11A.M. 1220 Niagara St.
4. Minutes (none)
5. Mail Distribution:
6. Nominations: Chair - a) Mark T, questions asked, vice chair- open, - b) Activities nomination -James Weiss dose not meet clean time requirement, Phillis Cook, nominated- accepts, c) secretary-open, d) P.I. -open
7. Vote: a). Chair (Mark t) 3 for 1 abstain, b). Treasure (Susan) 3 for 1 abstains, c). Rd-Alt: Early resins position due to health reasons. RD Bob B withdrawn nomination. Vote for Cedric S (2 for 1 against 1 abstain) 2/3 majority not met. Cedric S re-nominated and accepts.

8. Reports:
· RD - see report. Question (Buffalo), how much did we donate? Answer: $2,000 Question (by member): when is the next NE Zonal forum? Answer June 21-22, 2008 Albany, N.Y., Question (by member) did they say when the motions passed or failed? Answer I e-mailed out that information if I missed you please provide me your e-mail address and I will provide you the information
· RD ALT- see report
· Chair- no report
· Vice Chair -no report
· Hospitals & Institutions: see report will e-mail. Question (RD) will you be requesting money for stamps? Answer no
· Literature: see report
· Website: see report
· Guideline Review: see report
· Convention - see report Question: (website) is hotel information ok to post answer yes Question: (website) when and where do you meet? 2nd & 4th Saturday of the month 1220 Niagara St.
· Ni-O Area: see report Question (chair) do you have a donation? Answer not enough people to issue donation.
· Chautauqua Area: see report
· Niagara Falls Area: see report Question (chair) do you have a donation? Answer not at this time
· Buffalo- see report

9. Old Business:
Discussion on Earmark donation amount $100 for NNJ to help pay for legal fees. Discussion followed; call to question all for (5) against (7) motion to send money failed
Discussion presented by Ken from Chautauqua in regards to legal proceedings against Melvin Kerr. Discussion followed. Committee to proceed with prosecution.
Bob B asked for extension to turn in receipts, committee agreed


10. New Business:
· Treasure wants to know why region should be responsible for the $20 returned check fee from Chautauqua. Body will require Chautauqua to pay $20 returned check fee
· Bob submitted reimbursement form to treasure
· Buffalo submitted motion to remove James W. as convention chair for violation of convention by-laws section 2 under responsibilities
· Buffalo submitted motion to offer Ivan C. reinstatement as convention vice chair
· Buffalo submitted motion to find out if region can void contact with Holiday inn Grand Island
Three pros three cons taken
1. Con- (Bob B) previous convention committees have been allowed to select hotel
2. Con -(Adam J) states convention committee voted on Holiday inn decision needed to be made before regional meeting
3. Pro (Crystal M) the date of the letter was faxed after contract was signed.
4. Con (convention committee) letter sent from hotel states submission for contract deadline is April 30th
5. Pro (Ken P) - section- 6, number 2: duties of vice chair sole conduit between hotel and convention committee.
6. Pro (Susan M) did not follow the duties of the convention chair.
· Call to question all in favor of removal 2 for 5 against 2 abstain motion failed
· Convention will be going to the Holiday inn Grand island
· Motion ruled out of order for Ivan C reinstatement
· Motion from Niagara Falls that the convention chair be voted in at the regional meeting prior to the end of the convention. Vote in favor of motion is unanimous
· Revised the theft policy to include social security number. Tabled until next meeting
· Can we send another person to NEZF? Unanimous vote to send Cedric S to NEZF
· Bob B request of $520 for NEZF, Cedric S request $150 for food for NEZF

11. Closing Treasurer's Balance: $ 3,537.49

12. Meeting Closed: at 5:55pm with MOS/SP.

 

In Loving Service

Michael B.

 

 

 

Treasurer's Report to WNYRSCNA - May 2008

1) Opening Bank Balance: $2,625.23
2) Treasurer was able to resolve name discrepancy on bank account, statements now correctly addressed.
3) Chautauqua Area Donation for March 2008:
a) Check in the amount of $425.00 was returned unpaid.
b) Our bank charged our account $20.00 for returned check fee.
4) 2007 Regional Convention Treasurer Larceny Repayment Update:
a) In statement dated 2-24-08, Melvin Kerr admitted responsibility and accountability for $1134.00 missing from that treasury.
b) WNYRSCNA Treasurer was directed at March 2008 meeting to begin legal proceedings as stated in the signed theft policy.
i) Report was filed, but as no valid address was available, no further progress has been achieved.
ii) Treasurer made several attempts to meet with Buffalo Police Department Detectives with no success.
c) At emergency meeting held April 5, 2008, $35.00 cash was received from Web Servant, reportedly from Melvin Kerr.
d) Chair directed Treasurer not to issue receipt for monies received until valid address for certified mail is provided.
e) Treasurer has received only a P.O. Box address for Melvin Kerr, not a valid address for certified mail, or one that would allow proceeding with prosecution as per the signed theft policy.
f) No receipt has been issued to date.
g) $35.00 cash was deposited into WNYRSCNA account.
5) Income, Total: $1,457.26
a) Return of funds Total: $782.26
i) $ .30 cash returned from check #641 ($100.00) to BASCNA for CAR Workshop with receipts totaling $99.70.
ii) $781.96 cash returned from check #637 ($1,680.00) to RDA Earlie Harris for WSC with receipts totaling $898.04.
b) Donations Total: $675.00
i) Buffalo Area: $250.00
ii) Niagara Falls Area: $0
iii) Ni-O Area: $0
iv) Chautauqua Area: $425.00
1) Resubmission of March 2008 donation.
2) Check returned, not honored for need of two signatures.
3) Area reported unwillingness to pay our bank charge of $20.00 for returned check.
4) This body requests payment from the Area to cover the bank fee.
c) Disbursements, Total: $695.00
i) Check # 651, $520.00, to RD Bob Bishop for NEZF in June 2008, in Albany, NY.
1) Includes RD food, RD & ActingRDA gas, tolls, hotel.
ii) Check #652, $25.00, to BEREA Church for WNYRSCNA meeting space rental.
iii) Check #653, $150.00, to ActingRDA Cedric Smith for NEZF in June 2008, in Albany, NY, for food.
6) Closing Balance: $3537.49

In Service and Unity,
Susan Mourgas, WNYRSCNA Treasurer

 

 

 

5/17/2008

Guideline review report:

We met from 11:00-12:00 noon at 49 Indian Church Rd. just before the regional meeting in Buffalo, NY. There were about 12 people in attendance. We made great progress as always when there are many people participating. We continue to move ahead steadily on our project. Our next meeting will be held an hour before our next regional meeting in Niagara Falls on July 19th.

 

In Service

Dave M.

 

 

 

Convention Committee Meeting

The convention is going well. Ivan C. resigned as vice chair. Kenneth S. is new vice chair. All committee members have an email address. Our first event went well we had 35 people register after all expenses were paid we had a profit of $294. We have 3 events scheduled May 31st, June 7th speaker jam Lockport June 28th Taste on NA
We are requesting the speaker tapes from last year Convention Xll please. Hospitality is open we will be filling the position with Joy W.

Any other issues can be discussed at our May 24th meeting @ 1220 Niagara Street

 

 

 

Hospitals and Institutions Report May 17, 2008

I have missed the past two committee meetings due to back surgery. I am now able to fully participate in my position.

I have answered mail forwarded to me from institutions and will continue to do so.

In loving service,

Joseph Johnson
Regional H & I Chair

 

May 17, 2008

Literature Chair Report

I have missed the last two meetings due to illness and my husband's back surgery.

I assisted the Ni-O Area in the preparation and presentation of a Learning Day, which was held on April 18, 2008 in Lockport, New York. The event was very successful. This is the first Learning Day that Ni-O area has had in a very long time. They are now planning on having a Learning Day twice a year.

I am still working toward a Regional Learning Day. However, with all of the activities being presented by Areas, Convention Committee, Recovery in the Woods and Home Groups, I believe that this event would be better attempted after the convention in the fall.

In loving service,

Jeanne Johnson
Regional Literature Chair

 

 

 

May 17, 2008

NI-O AREA REPORT

 

Our RCM is unable to attend the Regional Meeting today. Jeanne J., our area treasurer will act in that capacity for voting purposes.

Ni-O has successfully held a Learning Day in April 2008. The Regional Literature Chair assisted us with the Learning Day. There are many activities forthcoming, which are on our Regional Website - including: Taste of NA on Sunday May 25, 2008 at Outwater Park in Lockport. Our area will h old a camping weekend in June, 2008 at Allegany State Park and a fishing derby/speaker jam also to be held in June, 2008. Our annual summer picnic will be held at Krull Park in Olcott on Sunday, August 3, 2008.

The area also had a Pool Tournament on May 10, 2008, which was well attended.

Our balance is $824.25, which includes a $250.00 prudent reserve and $200.00 Activities Fund. Donations to our seventh tradition have increased, as well as donations received from the Activities Committee.

Our area is in the process of changing phone companies for our Area Phone Line. We will advise everyone of the new phone number as soon as set up is complete.

In loving service,
Jeanne Johnson
Area Treasurer/Area Representative

 

RCM REPORT FOR THE NIAGARA FALLS AREA

Opening bal: for May $598.75
Closing bal: for May $

Our Car Workshop held in April was not supported by GSR's in the area.
RCM brought pizza, wings, beverages, plates, forks, and napkins plus rent totaling $94.36, leaving a balance of $5.64 from the $100.00 Region presented to RCM.
Receipts attached.

A question was asked because of a discrepancy in the Area Meeting, can a person hold more than one position if the position has voting rights. (ie) Chair of phone line represent self also as GSR of his Home group. We couldn't find anything in our bylaws.

RCM took info as far as positions Open on the Area level. Melvin nominated Cedric S for RD Alt.

Nothing else to report

Yours in service
Melvin Johnson RCM Niagara Falls

 

 

 

Regional Committee Report R.C.M. Ken Perry Chautauqua Area

Hello family,

For the most part all is doing well. We did look into the problem pertaining to our check. The reason it was returned was due to the fact that there was not two signatures on it. There was discussion on the $20.00 check fee charged to region and was voted not to pay that amount. I do have a replacement check in the amount of $425.00.

I also was contacted by the Convention Events committee to set up a fund raiser witch we are working on. We also have an picnic coming up on June 7m at JCC Community College from II :00 to 5:00.

Our current treasurery balance is $118.42.

Thank you, in loving service, Ken Perry R.C.M. Ph. 969-9923

 

 

RD report WSC

WB member Greg spoke about increasing the moment the RDA sat at different table. We were assigned seats to meet and greet others. Russia read 12 traditions, south africa read the 12 concept Iran couldn't make it. They were to read just for today. How we did intro was all those at the first conference stood second, third and fourth, fifth 6-10, more than 10. WB did intro. We did roll call standing. We did the newly seated region South Africa, West Russia then the WB and Staff then each region a-z. Small group Z. we did the small group intro sat with am, Leo, joe, JJ, Tom, and 3 reps from Japan all talked about our current service potions. Were from personal service experience or hops of servicing at the WSO. Then what to all the table (23) and shared our story.1250 at this time we wrote a letter to the delegates 2018. I had written a block but I heard some stories that others shared. This explained about the different Salons a-f tables, a-j bleachers. Then we went over all the times for the whole week proceeders

Monday

Did slide show on the northen Latin edm on the events WS has done like how many zonal meeting evnets an news. LA the small community has grown. Asia pacific and trip to china, and the Middle East. Iran has 11,000 meetings 2500 meetings are held in parks. one day workshops go for 5, 2500 attended also talked about hard to reach like Tyland,and Africa
NAWS report and intros Anthony into all the naws staff Nickle has gone up 1600% in 20 months. What about aluminum . Due to the survey we will be getting gold XX #s, China now has a draft of bt 9000 + are signed up for jft. We have a relationship with AA and AA now call us for info, input and they now view us as equal. If you change the look of the litt. Is a good thing in AA. Now the world is really looking different because we get used to it so now looks bring interest back. Many places were under prices there going up. Now 07 non english cost $5.00. Since 1996 The cost increased $.50. They are working on new prices. Based on th committees there trying to meet with home land security to get to places like Iran. Web site updates should be done by the end of 08. Very little input on this issue of seating. Little input on targeted litt. Put under in the sp. Book. Work groups needed within the fellowship needed to get naws numbers. How to input from web master trying to update. Wb had 9 law suit ranging from wrong food-falls. Targeted litt, motion will wb by the office
Went over what is service and recovery got a list of items.

Fellowship recovery

Becky M from the WSO started the presentation. They had a power point show presentation also. There are over 50,000 NA meetings currently in the world, 15 Zonal Forum's in North America and 24 fellowships development efforts in North America. Becky discussed where the NAWS staff and WB members have been traveling to. In there presentation they showed pictures from there travels in North America.
Tom Mc WB discussed NAWS fellowship development efforts in Latin America. They showed a power point presentation on where NAWS went in Latin America during this conference cycle. The members of Latin America started singing on the conference floor.

Asia Pacific there are 2 zonal forums, 10 fellowship development events, 7 fellowship developments in India, 3 NAWS events, PR/Fellowship Development trip to China. There was also a power point presentation with pictures on where NAWS went in Asia. Tom Mc discussed some PR events in Indonesia. If you get caught with drugs in that country you are punishable by death. Now Indonesia wants NA in there country and they are requesting literature there also. Iran is now a member of the Asia Pacific Forum (APF). Becky discussed the fellowship development efforts in China.
Becky M discussed that in the Middle East there was 11 NAWS workshops, 4 Fellowship Development events and 3 professional events in this cycle. There is an Arabic Translations Committee there to. NAWS went to the first Saudi Arabia Regional Convention in September of 2006. They showed pictures of there travels in the Middle East by a power point presentation. Women are recovering in Saudi Arabia with help of the men there. In Egypt the fellowship there meets underground. The Turkish Basic Text has been out a month. There are 13 Workshops in 7 Cities. The Iran fellowship was discussed and there was a slide show about Iran. In order to attend a workshop there you must have a service position there because there is know room to seat all the members there at these workshops. There are 11,000 meetings in Iran today, 2,500 meetings are held in parks. 200,000 members are in Iran. The WSO in Iran has 5 employees besides the office manager Siamak.
Becky M discussed that in Europe the European Delegates Meeting (EDM) is there Zonal Forum. There was another power point presentation on where NAWS went in Europe with pictures.
In Russia Tom Mc shared that there are 12 time zones. Becky showed pictures on power point presentation on where NAWS went there. The Russian Just for Today is now out.
In Africa Tom Mc discussed there trips for translations.

 

 

 

 

No changes to the hrp being recommended .
Greg S started this session. Greg introduced the members of the HRP, which are Sergio and Mindy. They had some of there presentation on a slide show. There was a 30-40 minute presentation of the HRP process, from members of the World Pool who fill out the new two page World Pool Information Form. There are currently 970 members in the World Pool. To be in the World Pool you must have 5 years clean time. 8 year clean time requirements are for the HRP and Conference Co Facilitator. The WB is a 10 year clean time requirement. The candidates are chosen by a point system. This process for the HRP is a blind screening process (they don't know who the candidates are who are going for these positions for the WSC) The Region, Board, Zone (RBZ) candidates are not done by a blind screening process. These are candidates who are nominated by the WB, Regions and Zones.
Questions were then asked to the HRP that were dropped in the HRP questions box at the WSC by the conference participants. Also, conference participants asked questions to the HRP.

 

New ideas

- Using non hrp resources . Past wb rd but none would have a vote

- Requesting rbz region why they submitted a members reasons. This is for 2010 conference

- Strengthening rbz process forward rbz guild lines

 

QA

- will translate committee lang. (Not just for vote pretty face?) Asked by latin rd's . Coming up with a way to train leadership in the local fellowship. Is there a policy or mechanism I asked them do they train and mentor others they said yes some of us do.

- open form to wb

NAWS then showed pictures of events in NA around the world. Amendments to old business motions were read. All the motions are attached to this report. The WB asked for any discussion from the WB on these motions and there was discussion from the board on these motions. Here were the discussion

Motion of old business amendments (by a straw poll).

#14 pass in favor, very strongly
unanimous
#13 pass in favor, very strongly

#45 failed, very strongly straw replaced all 10 amendments

#1 Motion 1 to commit very weak

#2 Now two motions to change ths motion is #41 week support , #42 very weak. Now #2 unanimous

#3 unanimous

#4 amendment #44 fails very weak

#4 amendment very Strong

#15 amendment #70 to add the word attitude to the index including sub tittle very strong

#5 passed with #70 very strong

#6 changed the foot note to pr not pi fails u.s.

#6 now motion to dived motion #6 fails very weak. Now #6 very strongly passed.

#7 now amendment #40 slip now #17 strongly in favor.

#8 now objection to consideration out of order failed now #8 very strong

#9 strong no

#10 Strong no

#12 weak support

 

Old vote motion

#14 pass

#13 Pass

#1 pass 101

#2 pass 101

#3 pass 101

#4 pass 101 at this time 7:26 pm the new bt was passed

# 5 motion added to this motion to ass #70 attitude standing vote

#5 pass 101

#6 pass 1 nay 100 ya

#7 motion #40 ya 29 na 60 a 4 p 7

#7 pass 101

#8 pass 100

#12 fail y 33 n 62 01 p 4

#9 amendment to strike the word bronze than have both in stock in meddle of debate or to recess fail

#9 fails

#10 fails

#7 fails

Elections,Budget and project plans

Donations to WSO up $200,000+ income stream stayed close $489,552 expenses revues use to help for the world convention. Fellowship development spent 2 times more this cycle 3.2 mill projects 2.1 will made ex alone done was a waste of expense excludes why lack of interest poor economic u.s. naws still has a post of 6,000 dollars. 11,600 in reserve 3.mill dollers reserve. Cost of up tp33% do to $

P.P.#91 (in cat )#105 fellowship apv. Make it easier to read understated ip# 24, 25. Self support. PR payee pros to speak for us. #111 is for a year project. #112 revues. In times of illness. #114 four year project 2012. #116 Make it easy to understand and use. Workshop find people
The 6th Edition of the Basic Text will be released at the end of the calendar year. $350,000 in expectations of revenue for the Basic Text are anticipated. The election results were for the WB Jim B, Junior H, for the HRP, Margaret H and Paul V and for the CO Facilitator's Jack H and Jimmy S. There were 1.2 million IP's, 420,000 key tags and 60,000 Just for Today's sold every year in Iran.

 

New business

Staw poll of all motins. 55+ motions

28-38

- #28 strong support #29 strong option with amendment #22 very strong

#30 unanimous favor #31 unanimous favor #32 unanimous favor

#33 now a amendment #63 no support #33 strong support #50 strong op.

# 34 unanimous #35 strong support #36 unanimous #37 unanimous

#38 strong support.

Regional seating

#15 very strong #16 very strong #17 very strong #18 very strong

#19 very strong #61 debated 2+ hrs split #62 majority support

#67 1 hr debate strong opposition #20 strong support #21 very strong

24 unanimous 25 unanimous 26 set aside 27 strong support

23 very strong 64 oppose 26 straw poll for non-english poll straw first so we know what they need them we note unanimous

71 unanimous then motion to commit. 74 very strong op 39 unanimous

51 split 52 strong op 53 strong op 65 strong op 46 split

56 strong op 54 split with amendment 55 strong op 58 strong op

73 strong op 60 strong support 78 strong op 47 strong

59 strong op 76 unanimous op 57 strong op.

Vote

101 pres 116 vote 59% 2/3 77

#15 pass #16 pass 17 pass 18 pass 19pass 20 pass21 pass

22 pass 23 pass 24 pass 25 pass 26 pass 27 pass28 pass

29 carried 30 pass 31 pass 32 pass 33 pass 34 pass35 pass

36 pass 37 pass 38 pass

Regional votes

61 pass then challenge stand court y 76 n 45 o 2 p 1 61 the court was messed up now standing roll call, passed 2nd time

62 pass 74 failed 46 failed 67 failed 39 commit to wb pass

54 failed 52 motion to commit failed 52 failed 51 failed 58 failed

60 commit (u) 59 failed 55 failed 57 commit failed 39 wb would make tis hi p
#43 64, 66, 68, 77 service ip possible solutions #23 put out to rds 90 review any addict can

write to make e-mail change to before approval and distribution of sp. Will be sent out to conference participants for 90 day review and input service tools pr material, and bulletins will continue to be develop and approved by wb (region should have a review committee?)

#61,62,67,69 seating regions

#75 amend #20 moratorium no say

#49,50,51,52,53,63,65 moratorium not to adopt

#46,54,55,56,58,60,71,73,74,78 policy #46 not #54 no say #55 not #56 not #58 not #60 not

#71 to commit #73 commit #74 not #78 noy #76 not #47 yes #59 not #57 not

PR gave a report

Who missing and why

Professional events 2006 went to 12 2008 so far 8, 2008 went to 12 pr to pro naws workshop presentations world international addiction, federal prole and courts.

Membership surveys cooperative events 2006 naws 10 regions 2006-2008 increased 400%. All kinds, professionals, addicts counselors, courts etc. Buffalo was invovled in this. 40 events 2 sweden 1 australia pics and reports when doing workshops. New wso web site is almost done should be online by end of year.

Report

I returned $87.00 back to the wsc and I also donated the money from the region $2000

In loving service

Bob B.

 

 

Note: all scaned reports will be in the regional minutes mailed & e-mailed to committee members